Step Forward Podcast

The Step Forward podcast is a limited series dedicated to providing space for deep conversations about anti-Black Racism in Ontario and beyond. This series, hosted by Kondwani Mwase is a collaboration spearheaded by the Ontario AIDS Network, produced by 54Lights podcast.

Throughout the series, we’ll be speaking with Black leaders from diverse professional and personal backgrounds. While each conversation will be unique, these discussions will explore and reflect on a single question: To what extend does white dominant culture and white supremacy impede the HIV public health response?

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Beth Jordan is founder and principal of Adobe Consulting Services and has deep practical and strategic experience as a trusted organizational developer and management consultant. She has consulted extensively to municipal, provincial and federal levels of government and NGO’s on the issues of violence against women, HIV/AIDS, social justice policy and the integration of anti-racism and anti-oppression frameworks. She has been instrumental in facilitating broad-based advocacy initiatives and has been active in a wide range of committees and coalitions.


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Episode Excerpt

“You are going to make mistakes. You are going to say the wrong thing. You are probably going to hurt somebody; you are probably going to offend somebody. And you know what? Thats okay, because you’re going to be accountable around that. You’re going to be able to have a process where you can be clear that you don’t know everything but you’re willing to learn and you’re willing to say ‘I messed up, I will do better and this is what it’s going to look like and this is what it’s going to mean’. Because the silence is unaccpetable. the silence turns into apathy, apathy turns into lack of action, lack of action means–which we know from our statistics–the death of Black people.”

EPISODE THREE: Jefferson Darrell

In this episode of Step Forward, Kondwani speaks with Jefferson Darrell, Founder of Breakfast Culture, in an open conservation about privilege and power and the surprising and complicated ways they intersect. Here, Jefferson discusses the Diversity Equity Inclusion Continuum as well as the 14 Global Diversity and Inclusion benchmark categories.


For more information about the topics covered in this podcast, review Amanuel’s PowerPoint slide.

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EPISODE TWO: Amanuel Melles

In this episode of Step Forward, Amanuel Melles speaks about social ecosystems, allyship, redifining the role of leaders, the importance of holding space, and how we can co-create a better future by shifting to our collective focus.

Amanuel Melles (Aman) is the Executive Director of the Network for Advancement of Black Communities (NABC) at York University. He is the Principal of Aman Consulting and has over 25 years of senior management experience and expertise in settlement and immigration, community health, community development, community peacebuilding, funding and philanthropy.

For more information about the topics covered in this podcast, review Amanuel’s PowerPoint slide.

Public Health Crisis Declaration

The Ontario AIDS Network (OAN) formally declares anti-Black racism a public health crisis within the HIV sector.

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EPISODE ONE: Ruth Cameron 

In our first-ever Step Forward podcast episode, Kondwani speaks with Executive Director of ACCKWA, Ruth Cameron, about embedding Black liberation work into HIV work. 


A 5-Part series dedicated to helping the HIV sector fight against anti-Black racism.

Listen to the Trailer for STEP FORWARD to learn more about the Podcast series.

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